Arab Army
The notion of a United Arab Community was tried before(60s and 70s) and failed msrebly. Syria, Egypt and Iraq all wanted to be boss...If Nasser couldent do it, what makes you think anyone else can? The arab world today, at least IMHO, is more devided than ever. Some are turning west, some are becomming Fundamental, some are nationalist, some are Pan-Arabist, some see them selves as Arabs first, some see them selves as Muslim first....It would take alot to bring them togather.
really?
their government are,
how about their ppl??
many arabian nations are not demoratic, government use abusolute power to keep their ppl down so they can achieve peace with Isreal
there is an acient verse in China: ppl is the water, government is the ship, water can make ship float on it, water can also make ship sink
ppl is the decisive power and their intention will decide which way their military go
their government are,
how about their ppl??
many arabian nations are not demoratic, government use abusolute power to keep their ppl down so they can achieve peace with Isreal
there is an acient verse in China: ppl is the water, government is the ship, water can make ship float on it, water can also make ship sink
ppl is the decisive power and their intention will decide which way their military go
Chocobo_Blitzer
Active member
If you ask me, I think Saudi Arabia will have a change in power in a decade or so. They have many fundmentalist, they do not like the close link with the westerners...
FlyingFrog
Active member
rOk said:
Even if Turkey cannot get in EU, they will not side with Arabs.
Turkey knows its future is in Europe, they are smart to make smart decision especially in Wars.
Chocobo_Blitzer
Active member
Yup I totally agree, Istanbul will definatly side with the west.
I agree here Istanbul will side with the West...
...the military leadership that is. As far as the majority of the people go its not a sure thing.
The military leadership of Turkey has alway been secular and pro-West. They are well respected, but sometimes at odds with the majority of the Muslim populace, especially the fundamentalist. In fact if someone has Muslim fundamentalist tendencies they will be rooted out from getting in the higher ranks of the officer core.
...the military leadership that is. As far as the majority of the people go its not a sure thing.
The military leadership of Turkey has alway been secular and pro-West. They are well respected, but sometimes at odds with the majority of the Muslim populace, especially the fundamentalist. In fact if someone has Muslim fundamentalist tendencies they will be rooted out from getting in the higher ranks of the officer core.
fingolfin361
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FlyingFrog said:
I have to agree with most points there, but the population of Arab nations is not large, even combined it is not huge. There just aren't enough Arabs in the Middle East. I mean, many Arab countries sustain their economies on oil wealth and Foreign labour. Large portions of the populations are foreigners, particularly other Muslims and people from South Asia. In many of the smaller countries, South Asians severely outnumber Arabs. And its not like they are naturalized citizens who would fight for the Arab country in which they live.
Many of the smaller countries rely too much on foreign, particularly Western bussiness to risk opposing the West militarily. Even though the populations of these nations do not neccessarily agree with their governments' stand, the authority of the respective Monarchs is not easy to challenge.
Also, Arab Africa shouldn't really be considered Arab. The more west you go, the less Arab the people are. Tunisia onwards, the cultures are more Berber, and are areas that came under Arab dominance, but haven't completely integrated Arab culture. Even Egypt has its distinct culture, and even speak a very different dialect of Arabic, than those spoken in Asia.
The prospect of a truly unified Arabia is far off at best, if you dont throw in some dramatic, unexpected variable of course. Like someone else said earlier, if Nasser couldn't do it, what makes you think anyone else can.
hc^patonki
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oRTouCH said:
You are as kinky as those KKK guys, they hate jews, but believe in Jesus. :whip:
Chief Bones
Forums Grumpy Old Man
Only in a dream ...
A "united" Arab country in the Middle East ... NEVER HAPPEN.
The Arabs of the Middle East are the MOST DIVERSE people in the world ... even more diverse than the United States. The Middle East is made up of every religion and sub-religion in the world and even these sub-religion groups have sub-sub-sects.
With these unique and opposite beliefs the various groups and sects will NEVER be able to settle their differences to the point that they would put up with ANY other group having control and governance over their people.
A fractured group of Arab countries is a possibility ... however ... no single country will be able to sustain an effort against the free world. The free world will never allow an Arab splinter group to endanger the world supply of oil. High prices ... MAYBE ... total blockade of oil sales to the West ... NEVER.
A "united" Arab country in the Middle East ... NEVER HAPPEN.
The Arabs of the Middle East are the MOST DIVERSE people in the world ... even more diverse than the United States. The Middle East is made up of every religion and sub-religion in the world and even these sub-religion groups have sub-sub-sects.
With these unique and opposite beliefs the various groups and sects will NEVER be able to settle their differences to the point that they would put up with ANY other group having control and governance over their people.
A fractured group of Arab countries is a possibility ... however ... no single country will be able to sustain an effort against the free world. The free world will never allow an Arab splinter group to endanger the world supply of oil. High prices ... MAYBE ... total blockade of oil sales to the West ... NEVER.