Thoughts on the Russo-Ukranian War?

I3BrigPvSk said:
There is a psychological effect of the Russian air base go boom. The People in the Crimea might begin to questioning the Russian war effort when maybe other things go boom as well. I have said it before and i say it again. I want the bridge between Crimea and Russia to go boom.
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I certainly think that with the bridges over the Dnieper damaged or otherwise out of action, destroying the Kerch straight bridge would create major supply problems for Russian forces in southern Ukraine.
If Ukraine could draw larger numbers of Russian troops that way beforehand it would make counter attacks in the north and east easier as it would be harder for Russia to redeploy it's forces.
 
MontyB said:
I certainly think that with the bridges over the Dnieper damaged or otherwise out of action, destroying the Kerch straight bridge would create major supply problems for Russian forces in southern Ukraine.
If Ukraine could draw larger numbers of Russian troops that way beforehand it would make counter attacks in the north and east easier as it would be harder for Russia to redeploy it's forces.
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Yes, that's why I want the Ukrainians to destroy the Kerch straight bridge. The Supply lines are all armies weakness and the Russian supply lines are dependent on the railroads.

I watched the video about the air base, you posted earlier. I think the Ukrainians used some missiles with cluster munition warhead or airburst munition. That would be the easiest way to hit targets protected like the planes at the air base. Cluster munitions and airburst munitions are also the preferred choice to hit targets over an extended area at the same time.
 
I've always said I'd never set foot in a tank, and seeing how the Ukrainians are blowing the crap out of Russian tanks I've not changed my mind.

At the rate Russians are losing their armoured vehicles, surely they can't have many left in one piece.

One thing does worry me though, with all the losses of men and material, Putin is nutty enough to use nuclear weapons.
 
BritinBritain said:
I've always said I'd never set foot in a tank, and seeing how the Ukrainians are blowing the crap out of Russian tanks I've not changed my mind.

At the rate Russians are losing their armoured vehicles, surely they can't have many left in one piece.

One thing does worry me though, with all the losses of men and material, Putin is nutty enough to use nuclear weapons.
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It also depends on how the Russians are using their tanks. I have noticed a few things during this war (even if the Russian Gov calls it something else) The mech/tank units are using the roads instead of driving off road like what they do in their propaganda videos. The Russian army is perceiving their tanks as the main force instead of using them as a support for their infantry. I haven't seen a lot of Russian infantry either. I believe their tactical battalion groups are created to engage the enemy's battle groups, but not against light infantry units with AT weapons. We have seen a lot of videos of destroyed Russian vehicles, but not a lot of dead Russian soldiers around their destroyed IFV's and/or APC's. If they were inside them, they were first turned into ravioli and then cremated.

I saw something strange a few months ago. I saw the the old BMP1 with the Z and Z in a square and the V. Have they got so many BMP's destroyed so they force to take the old ones out of storage?

Are the tanks obsolete? Maybe, but I don't want to count them out completely. I think the Russian doctrine (and many other military doctrines) view tanks like what the armed forces view tanks during the Second World War. Maybe we need to change the doctrine and use tanks to support the infantry instead of having them as the main attack force with infantry support.
 
I3BrigPvSk said:
Yes, that's why I want the Ukrainians to destroy the Kerch straight bridge. The Supply lines are all armies weakness and the Russian supply lines are dependent on the railroads.

I watched the video about the air base, you posted earlier. I think the Ukrainians used some missiles with cluster munition warhead or airburst munition. That would be the easiest way to hit targets protected like the planes at the air base. Cluster munitions and airburst munitions are also the preferred choice to hit targets over an extended area at the same time.
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Hmm well things may be going your way as explosions have been heard in Kerch...

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/08/18/7363901/

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/article264670114.html
 
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I3BrigPvSk said:
Boom, boom, boom, I want Russian depots and bases go boom

A failed attempt to be funny and singing a song from the 90s by Vengaboys.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nIJdHn1FFE
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Ukraine seems to be having some success in fragmenting Russian forces and logistics which is paying dividends.
I am not sure whether the onset of autumn, winter and spring are going to be good or bad for Ukraine though, on one hand it appears the Russians are poorly equipped which will make life miserable for them but it will buy time to rebuild, Ukraine should handle conditions better and will allow new units to be made combat ready but they lack the overall resources available to the Russians.
 
MontyB said:
Ukraine seems to be having some success in fragmenting Russian forces and logistics which is paying dividends.
I am not sure whether the onset of autumn, winter and spring are going to be good or bad for Ukraine though, on one hand it appears the Russians are poorly equipped which will make life miserable for them but it will buy time to rebuild, Ukraine should handle conditions better and will allow new units to be made combat ready but they lack the overall resources available to the Russians.
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The only thing Ukraine can hope for and fight for is to inflict a huge amount of casualties for the Russians to more or less force them to throw in the towel. The Ukrainians can counterattack, but a large scale offensive? I doubt it, it's not impossible for them to launch an offensive, but with what. The million citizen army must be trained and equipped to do it.
 
I3BrigPvSk said:
The only thing Ukraine can hope for and fight for is to inflict a huge amount of casualties for the Russians to more or less force them to throw in the towel. The Ukrainians can counterattack, but a large scale offensive? I doubt it, it's not impossible for them to launch an offensive, but with what. The million citizen army must be trained and equipped to do it.
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Ukraine is grinding down the Russians and that has been helped by Russian tactics, now it seems all the Russians are capable of is feeding in enough troops to maintain defensive capability.

The problem as I see it is that neither side has the capability to achieve a decisive superiority in numbers which means it will come down to a long grind until one collapses which may favour the Russians or the numbers reach a point where training and supply are decisive and that will favour Ukraine.
 
BritinBritain said:
Its freaking scary whats available these days, Ukraine has got to hammer the crap out of the Russians.
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This war has really showed what the artillery can do. Instead of trashing the entire area the artillery is really efficient to hit the targets with few shells.

it seems the Ukrainians are counter-attacking around Kherson, but I doubt it is a major counter-offensive. The attacks force the Russian to deploy forces to the region, but the Ukrainians have reduced the Russian logistics in the south.
 
I3BrigPvSk said:
This war has really showed what the artillery can do. Instead of trashing the entire area the artillery is really efficient to hit the targets with few shells.

it seems the Ukrainians are counter-attacking around Kherson, but I doubt it is a major counter-offensive. The attacks force the Russian to deploy forces to the region, but the Ukrainians have reduced the Russian logistics in the south.
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The Ukrainians have to deliver something positive soon or they run the risk of the west losing interest throughout the winter period.
I really think the best option to deliver something is to push the Russians back across the dnieper river, they are not going to get to Crimea but consolidating the territory west if the dnieper would be something.
 
MontyB said:
The Ukrainians have to deliver something positive soon or they run the risk of the west losing interest throughout the winter period.
I really think the best option to deliver something is to push the Russians back across the dnieper river, they are not going to get to Crimea but consolidating the territory west if the dnieper would be something.
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Kherson has another important aspect. It controls the fresh water supply to Crimea.
 
I3BrigPvSk said:
Kherson has another important aspect. It controls the fresh water supply to Crimea.
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My only problem is that there is something "off" with this whole thing.
They are telegraphing their offensive before it begins which seems odd, the build up has been incredibly slow and they don't appear to be putting any where near enough manpower into it.

IF they are planning an offensive this doesn't seem like it or it is a very risky double bluff.
 
MontyB said:
My only problem is that there is something "off" with this whole thing.
They are telegraphing their offensive before it begins which seems odd, the build up has been incredibly slow and they don't appear to be putting any where near enough manpower into it.

IF they are planning an offensive this doesn't seem like it or it is a very risky double bluff.
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That's my problem with the "Kherson Attack/Offensive" if I can use that term, is telling the whole world what they plan to do. It's like if the allied had told the Germans where and when they will launch the invasion of West Europe. I think the Ukrainians wanted to get out of the attritional artillery battle in the east, because it was beneficial for the Russians. The attacks around Kherson force the Russians to deploy forces from the east down to the south
 
I3BrigPvSk said:
That's my problem with the "Kherson Attack/Offensive" if I can use that term, is telling the whole world what they plan to do. It's like if the allied had told the Germans where and when they will launch the invasion of West Europe. I think the Ukrainians wanted to get out of the attritional artillery battle in the east, because it was beneficial for the Russians. The attacks around Kherson force the Russians to deploy forces from the east down to the south
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What I suspect is that we are seeing a modern version of the battle of Verdun, essentially the Russians have to defend Kherson but they cannot deploy their heavy weapons due to the loss of the bridges they effectively are left pumping in infantry to hold ground meanwhile the Ukrainians keep enough pressure on to force Russia to maintain troop numbers and pound their supply lines and positions with artillery, basically bleeding them white.
With winter coming I wouldn't like to be an under equipped/trained Russian infantryman outside Kherson.
This is the only reason I can see for the amount of information being given to the Russians about the battle, to force them to relocate troops to reinforce the region.
 
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