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Two TUR prototypes to be shown in Kielce showroom.
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New TURs at 15th International Defence Industry Exhibition at Kielce (MSPO)
31-08-2007
During MSPO 2007 two prototypes of patrol vehicle Tur from AMZ Kutno will be shown. Compared to the demonstrator version, both prototypes have several visible design changes. Following soldiers' postulates the shooting ports has been introduced and placed in armored doors - even though no such feature exists in other vehicles of this class.
The door locking system has been improved. The tank inlet has been relocated (final location is still under design).
The driver and the commander seats have been changed to another type and are equipped with four-point safety belts.
The first prototype, the green one, has been equipped with remotely controlled weapon module ZSMU-Kobuz 12,7 mm, with OBRSM in the prototyped variation with the ammunition supplied from below the armor.
The second prototype, the desert (sand) one, is additionally equipped with self-defense system consisting of 4x2 launchers of 81 mm smoke grenades. It also features a modified back of its body.
The prototypes have been placed on a chassis practically made entirely in AMZ Kutno - although evolved from the earlier known Italian chassis.
The vehicle has been slimmed down by implementing newer technologies: the basic variant (without turntable, communication system and command system), with the armor assuring protection against 7,62 mm x54R B32 shells; that is, above Level 2 STANAG 4569, weighs 4800 kg.
With the maximal acceptable weight of 6200 kg this gives a room of 1400 kg for the crew, additional equipment and the weapons.
AMZ Kutno is in a process of testing the Tur's armor against the Level 3 STANAG 4569 specification.
Grzegorz Hołdanowicz, chief editor of "Raport WTO"
Source: http://www.altair.com.pl/
Photos: AMZ Kutno
Translated by Mishka Zubov
Thx again phoenix
New TURs at 15th International Defence Industry Exhibition at Kielce (MSPO)
31-08-2007
During MSPO 2007 two prototypes of patrol vehicle Tur from AMZ Kutno will be shown. Compared to the demonstrator version, both prototypes have several visible design changes. Following soldiers' postulates the shooting ports has been introduced and placed in armored doors - even though no such feature exists in other vehicles of this class.
The door locking system has been improved. The tank inlet has been relocated (final location is still under design).
The driver and the commander seats have been changed to another type and are equipped with four-point safety belts.
The first prototype, the green one, has been equipped with remotely controlled weapon module ZSMU-Kobuz 12,7 mm, with OBRSM in the prototyped variation with the ammunition supplied from below the armor.
The second prototype, the desert (sand) one, is additionally equipped with self-defense system consisting of 4x2 launchers of 81 mm smoke grenades. It also features a modified back of its body.
The prototypes have been placed on a chassis practically made entirely in AMZ Kutno - although evolved from the earlier known Italian chassis.
The vehicle has been slimmed down by implementing newer technologies: the basic variant (without turntable, communication system and command system), with the armor assuring protection against 7,62 mm x54R B32 shells; that is, above Level 2 STANAG 4569, weighs 4800 kg.
With the maximal acceptable weight of 6200 kg this gives a room of 1400 kg for the crew, additional equipment and the weapons.
AMZ Kutno is in a process of testing the Tur's armor against the Level 3 STANAG 4569 specification.
Grzegorz Hołdanowicz, chief editor of "Raport WTO"
Source: http://www.altair.com.pl/
Photos: AMZ Kutno
Translated by Mishka Zubov
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The Hot Florida Part 1
The Hot Florida
by Jacek Matuszak
Thursday, September 27, 2007
A burning sun, a beach, a hum of ocean, palm trees - in a word, a holiday paradise. This is what one usually associates with Florida. Polish soldiers from Battle Team Alpha, Polish Military Contingent in Afghanistan, have different kind of associations with Florida.
This is the name of one of the roads they are patrolling. One thing that is common to both Floridas is, at least at the moment, the burning sun. Other than that everything else is different. Instead of a beach - an asphalt, instead of humming waves - a wind in their faces during a ride, instead of palm trees - an occasional roadside bush. And the most important difference: instead of a blissful laziness of a holiday - a tense attention and a risk of IDEs threatening the convoy.
As the soldiers joke - they have exchanged their Florida bathing suits by flak jackets, weighing dozen or so kilograms. "Other than that the attractions are almost the same. But, as everybody knows, the word "almost" is a big difference here" - laughs WO Piotr Ostrowski, a paramedic.
Before the patrol left the base LT. Artur Zielichowski, a convoy commander, has given them the detailed instructions. "I know that this is not your first trip to Florida. But I ask you, as usually, to pay a particular attention. You all know how it is on this road. Remember that our main task is a demonstration of ISAF power in the region. And when we are at it we will also check those holes" - explained Lt. Zielichowski.
The holes he spoke about are the places where the rebels plant their explosives most often. In general, planting the IDEs on the asphalt road is not easy and requires a lot of work. One has to dig the holes, plant the explosives and then mask the places. But the number of holes have increased recently. One never knows which one is "hot". "It looks a little bit like a race. We check and eliminate known holes, but in their place new holes appear. Often, for example during a night patrol, we render safe an IDE found in some hole, but the morning patrol finds another IDE at the same place. This is why there is no place for routine in our operations. We have to be vigilant all the time" - said Maj. Michal Holub, a commander of Battle Team Alpha.
During the ride everyone was very careful. Even though the road surface allowed for speeding the column was moving with prudence. It slowed down often and it stopped at suspicious looking places. Those riding in Rosomak (Wolverine) could observe the terrain without leaving the vehicle. It can be done due to a system of cameras and monitors installed in the transporter. This helps very much in moving in dangerous terrain. In addition, Rosomak makes great impression, majestically traversing kilometers of the Afghan highway. When needed - it changes into a real predator and its 30 mm cannon is able to convince any attacker to withdraw. The transporter has also one virtue praised by the soldiers the most: the armor of their little "auto" has been already able to resist explosion force of several IDEs.
This time there was only one longer stop. At the right hand side of the road one could see a smoke and fire from far away. When the column approached it became clear that this was just one of the local trucks ending its life. But it was not caused by shelling or by IDE. The truck brakes had seized, and from this the wheels had caught fire, which then in turn had fallen off the truck. The truck owner was not even surprised. It was the Rosomak that impressed him more, when it blocked the road perpendicularly to the road axis - directing its barrel towards the open terrain and threatening potential attackers.
The Hot Florida
by Jacek Matuszak
Thursday, September 27, 2007
A burning sun, a beach, a hum of ocean, palm trees - in a word, a holiday paradise. This is what one usually associates with Florida. Polish soldiers from Battle Team Alpha, Polish Military Contingent in Afghanistan, have different kind of associations with Florida.
This is the name of one of the roads they are patrolling. One thing that is common to both Floridas is, at least at the moment, the burning sun. Other than that everything else is different. Instead of a beach - an asphalt, instead of humming waves - a wind in their faces during a ride, instead of palm trees - an occasional roadside bush. And the most important difference: instead of a blissful laziness of a holiday - a tense attention and a risk of IDEs threatening the convoy.
As the soldiers joke - they have exchanged their Florida bathing suits by flak jackets, weighing dozen or so kilograms. "Other than that the attractions are almost the same. But, as everybody knows, the word "almost" is a big difference here" - laughs WO Piotr Ostrowski, a paramedic.
Before the patrol left the base LT. Artur Zielichowski, a convoy commander, has given them the detailed instructions. "I know that this is not your first trip to Florida. But I ask you, as usually, to pay a particular attention. You all know how it is on this road. Remember that our main task is a demonstration of ISAF power in the region. And when we are at it we will also check those holes" - explained Lt. Zielichowski.
The holes he spoke about are the places where the rebels plant their explosives most often. In general, planting the IDEs on the asphalt road is not easy and requires a lot of work. One has to dig the holes, plant the explosives and then mask the places. But the number of holes have increased recently. One never knows which one is "hot". "It looks a little bit like a race. We check and eliminate known holes, but in their place new holes appear. Often, for example during a night patrol, we render safe an IDE found in some hole, but the morning patrol finds another IDE at the same place. This is why there is no place for routine in our operations. We have to be vigilant all the time" - said Maj. Michal Holub, a commander of Battle Team Alpha.
During the ride everyone was very careful. Even though the road surface allowed for speeding the column was moving with prudence. It slowed down often and it stopped at suspicious looking places. Those riding in Rosomak (Wolverine) could observe the terrain without leaving the vehicle. It can be done due to a system of cameras and monitors installed in the transporter. This helps very much in moving in dangerous terrain. In addition, Rosomak makes great impression, majestically traversing kilometers of the Afghan highway. When needed - it changes into a real predator and its 30 mm cannon is able to convince any attacker to withdraw. The transporter has also one virtue praised by the soldiers the most: the armor of their little "auto" has been already able to resist explosion force of several IDEs.
This time there was only one longer stop. At the right hand side of the road one could see a smoke and fire from far away. When the column approached it became clear that this was just one of the local trucks ending its life. But it was not caused by shelling or by IDE. The truck brakes had seized, and from this the wheels had caught fire, which then in turn had fallen off the truck. The truck owner was not even surprised. It was the Rosomak that impressed him more, when it blocked the road perpendicularly to the road axis - directing its barrel towards the open terrain and threatening potential attackers.
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The Hot Florida Part 2
"This happens quite often here. None of the vehicles driving in Afghanistan would pass any technical control in our country. But here no one cares. Most of them are in a fatal technical state. They move until they completely break" - says one of the soldiers watching the roadside.
"This happens quite often here. None of the vehicles driving in Afghanistan would pass any technical control in our country. But here no one cares. Most of them are in a fatal technical state. They move until they completely break" - says one of the soldiers watching the roadside.
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The Hot Florida Part 3
This single road "incident" did not put the attention of soldiers to sleep. Although inside the vehicle is pleasantly cool and monotonic hum of the engine could put you to sleep no one sleeps. One has to pay attention all the time. This time our patrol has safely returned to base. But later the same day, at the same stretch of road, a coalition convoy has been shelled upon. Two HMMVs have been hit, caught fire and got burned. Fortunately nobody died. But this example clearly demonstrates how different is the Afghan Florida from the American one.
Source: http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazet...8189&Itemid=29
Oryginally posted and translated by MZ
This single road "incident" did not put the attention of soldiers to sleep. Although inside the vehicle is pleasantly cool and monotonic hum of the engine could put you to sleep no one sleeps. One has to pay attention all the time. This time our patrol has safely returned to base. But later the same day, at the same stretch of road, a coalition convoy has been shelled upon. Two HMMVs have been hit, caught fire and got burned. Fortunately nobody died. But this example clearly demonstrates how different is the Afghan Florida from the American one.
Source: http://www.redakcjawojskowa.pl/gazet...8189&Itemid=29
Oryginally posted and translated by MZ
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It's "Beryl" (beryllium) and yes it was based on AK-74 design.
Now some new Polish Air Force pics.
Oryginally posted by Mishka Zubov
http://www.mon.gov.pl/pl/galeria/1112
High resolution photos are at the above address. Below are the same photos but reduced to a 640x480 resolution.
Now some new Polish Air Force pics.
Oryginally posted by Mishka Zubov
http://www.mon.gov.pl/pl/galeria/1112
High resolution photos are at the above address. Below are the same photos but reduced to a 640x480 resolution.
