A Can of Man
Je suis aware
What I felt at my last job was that Apathy is evil.
I'd go into it further but I'm about to step out and get some air.
I'd go into it further but I'm about to step out and get some air.
Oh come on I am sure the government could assign you a hairy Scotsman or something.
I have never met people so determined to get angry over an act that doesn't affect them in any way shape or form, I could perhaps understand it if there was a potential negative aspect to it (as there would be in allowing incest or child pornography) but in this case you are dealing with the actions of two consenting adults in the privacy of their own homes.
This is a matter of fact and personal opinion, not all things need to be to be justified by logic to be correct.
It's like a person having a dislike of a Brussel sprouts,... no amount of "logical or learned debate" can make that person like them. In this case it appears that the majority of persons in California have voted that homosexual marriage should not have official recognition. That carries far more weight than any amount of "logic". Well,... it did last time I lived in a democratic society.
Chukpike said:They will focus their efforts on legislation and the courts. They are willing to bypass the ulimate right of the people to decide.
This view scares the hell out of me. I do not believe the State has any right to overide the will of the people.
And if somebody should have any experience with the control of the people it would be him...How fortunate for leaders that men do not think. - Adolf Hitler
In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule. - Friedrich Nietsche
Senojekips said:Ted, could you please define "Love".
I love my children, but I'm not wanting to, nor legally allowed to marry them.
Sure your rights count, but some of us think that the same goes for others too. And yes, you have a right to disagree. But you can't exclude others their wishes because you disagree!the_13th_warrior said:BritinAfrica, our rights don't count. Remember? Because what we value is a bit "too normal" to be given any kind of "protected" status.
senojekips said:The death of democracy is not likely to be an assasination from ambush. but more likely a slow extinction from apathy and indifference to that which is right.
And all of a sudden Al Jazeera is a solid, scientific source. That is very convinient isn't it? We all know the point of view by Islamics on homo's. But we can say the same about their point of view on Israeli's or Christians.صورة رقم (4) تبين انتشار السرطان الخاص باللوطيين - المثليين
They're not abnormal relations... Men and women have **** sex too... What about them? Do they deserve to not be allowed to be married? Perhaps the government should just confine our sexuality to missionary position, and only for procreation. I'd just like to see how they can contain it. Look, it's like Mmarsh said... As long as they aren't hitting on me, or affecting me in any way, I don't care. It's their choice, and who are we to stop them... Let me go ahead and pull out the ultimate quotes
Said study author Dr. Penh DIEPPE - researcher Hospital Medical Center of San Francisco - The bacteria infection affecting mainly homosexuals in locations where there is thin skin skin contact during the abnormal relations.
Or if you like"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
"Before you reach to remove the speck in your neighbors eye, be sure to remove the plank from your own."
And all of a sudden Al Jazeera is a solid, scientific source. That is very convinient isn't it? We all know the point of view by Islamics on homo's. But we can say the same about their point of view on Israeli's or Christians.
It always scares me a little when people take this so very litteral. Somebody else said this better than I can:
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How fortunate for leaders that men do not think. - Adolf Hitler
And if somebody should have any experience with the control of the people it would be him...
You probably guessed it already. I think the change of any legislation should be left to people who studied the issue. Leaving it to leemen is asking for trouble, for they are too easily focussing themselves on details and forgetting to global picture. And once again a much wiser man than me put this much better:
*applause*Exactly! There's nothing in the Constitution that defines marriage as between a man and a woman, so why should there be laws preventing two men from marriage?!
It is a legitimate question, because of the fact that love cannot be succinctly defined, it really cannot be used as a criteria for marriage. Marriage more than anything is no more than a legal state, either declared by the physical act of marriage, or undeclared as in common law relationships, as it's former religious meaning has long since lost any meaning.Please don't play semantics Senojekips; you love your wife and you were wanting to marry her and it was legal too. I defined love as the sincere wish to share your life together for better or for worse. The kind you feel for you spouse. I love my cats too....
Exactly! There's nothing in the Constitution that defines marriage as between a man and a woman, so why should there be laws preventing two men from marriage?!
You're correct, but there are rights of individuals that should override the rights of the States. According to you yourself the power of the people should be the ultimate authority, so the people should have the authority to decide who they marry, right?There is nothing in the Constitution or any amendments to it that defines marriage at all. That is why it is left to the individual States. States made laws about marriage and the citizens and their state governments are free to determine who can and can't marry.
The Gay and Lesbian organizations trying to gain "equal rights" for their culture are careful in seeking relief in the courts to keep them from going beyond state jurisdiction. They do not want any cases going to the Supreme Court. If gay and lesbian preference were truly protected by the Constitution, why is that? Why spend all that money on so many individual state court fights? The answer is that the Constitution does not recognise sexual preference as a right and they know it.
Look, it's like Mmarsh said... As long as they aren't hitting on me, or affecting me in any way, I don't care. It's their choice, and who are we to stop them... Let me go ahead and pull out the ultimate quotes
Or if you like