Interesting argument over the ceasefire as there is a strong counter argument that says Israel never fully lifted the blockade which was an integral part of the ceasefire, if this is true then it was Israel that broke the terms.
The blockade cannot be lifted because Hammas is smuggling in weapons. On the other side, Israel gives Gaza petrol, electricity, water and so on. This is inspite of Gaza being infact a hostile entity to israel. The blockade is a result of Hammas attacks and not the other way around. this is easily demonstrated by the fact that israel left gaza in 2005, only to be attacked by Hammas in 2006. Israel has no responsibilty to feed and provide for the palestinians. they cant as k for us to leave "thir" land and than ask for us to support them financially.
(1) The majority of the world really don't really believe that "Israel" is a legitimate entity, but merely another occupier of someone elses land. All this religious crap about "God's chosen people and having been promised a this land by god just doesn't cut it anymore. Zionist extremism is the last straw for most people including myself.
Zionisem has nothing to do with god, infact nearly all major zionist figures were seculer. I dont think you have much of any idea about zionisem, who the land "belongs" to, or much else. The fact that you use "" with my countries name is enough to put you in the company of Iran, Hezballah and Hammas, I hope you feel in good company.
(2) People expect better of the Jews after them having suffered so much at the hands of the Nazi's, whereas I feel most people look upon the muslim extremists as not much better than some sort of neanderthals. Or else, like christians, just another group who wish to subjugate their own people and others with religious mumbo jumbo.
So, you ar admitting you hold a double standart. the arabs can attack us because they are "savages"(a racist claim in its own right)but we are supposed to act unlike ayn other country in the world and not strike back. Your hipocracy is amazing.
(3)People don't ***** about the muslims because they know it is a waste of time and breath that would be better used for cooling our soup, whereas they do have a hope that the people of Israel will come to their senses one day and realise that there will be no peace so long as they treat the Palestinians and their land as a resource.
What are you talking about? Who is treating them as a resource? what dose that mean? what do you think, we use them as slaves? get a grip on reality. As for the land, there is nearly nothing of any value in Gaza or the West Bank. Israels onjly motive is to protect its citizens.
Look at the scoreboard since the latest conflict this was as of last night on CNN.
KIA Palestineans 300+ (most of which are civilians)
KIA Isreal 3 (2 civilians and 1 soldier)
If the US Media actually bothered to cover BOTH sides of the conflict their would be a lot less sympathy for Israel. I remember a few years ago the IAF dropped a bomb on the apartment building of a known terrorist killing him. Unfortunately, their were 19 other people living in the same building as the terrorist who were killed as well. Killing 19 civilians to kill a single terrorist, that's a bit heavy-handed don't you all think? Is it any wonder why people dont like Isreal
Firstly, out of 400 houndred killed, even the palestinians do not say most are civilians. unless you define gov officials and police officers as civilians. Secondly, yes we kill more of them than they do of us. our respons is not an eye for an eye, it is meant to show that their price tag for violence will be high. as for killing 19 civilians to kill one terrorist, that is not a good result, but i still rather see 19 dead palestinians than 19 dad israelis, so yes, i think its ok to kill their civiies to save ours. again, morality is a *****.
They have tried being reasoned with in the past, and I never said Isreal doesn't have the right to defend itself. Its the methods I have issue with. How would you like having your family wiped out by a 500lb bomb dropped by a IAF F-16 because the guy 3 floors down from you was a terrorist?
Only Hammas was elected in a democratic election by the palestinians in Gaza. They support the terrorists that lives dowstaris.
'Defending your country' isn't a 'carte blanche' to do whatever you want. Its so easy to spin that into a justification into anything. That excuse Adolf Hitler claimed to be defending Germany when he invaded Poland or that the recent invasion of Iraq was necessary to defend American as claimed by Bush.
Neither Poland nor Iraq launched any rockets at their invaders before the invasion. I would also like to object to you putting Bush and Hitler togather in the same context, It is far from historically or moraly correct(And im not a Bush supporter).
