Prapor
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In Russia, there is a enormous rise in ownership of so-called 'traumatic' weapons. Non-lethal, on paper (quite a few people, actually, have died as a result of their use). Classic, basic 'traumatic' guns shoot either a rubber bullet, or, 'hard ammo', steel bullet or ball coated in rubber.
There is a lot of choice, as many brands, sizes, etc, are available
There are some guns, like PM 'Makarych', top right corner, that can shoot both rubber and also tear gas bullets. Next to that, to the left, is the 'Ratnik' revolver, which also fires tear gas or steel-rubber ammo. Bottom row, you have a TT 'Leader', made to look like regular, combat TT-33, except it fires rubber bullets. Next to it is a 'traumatic' version of the Nagant revolver. On top of the Nagant, you have the 'Osa' pistol, four barreled, it firs four kinds of ammunition: rubber-steel (renowned for effectiveness, it is believed that the force of a 'Osa' steel rubber-coated round at close range is comparable to a close-up knockout punch of a professional heavyweight boxer), tear gas, 'shock' rounds (rubber bullet with electrodes, like Taser, but better
), and flash-bang round: blinds, deafens and completely disorients an opponent for about 15 minutes. My wife owns one of these. You have also a Izh-79 tear gas pistol. Top left corner is one of the new automatic 'traumat' guns, for people who may need more than 2, 3 or 4 shots to bring down an attacker. Very effective against multiple opponents too. Like an Uzi, but non-lethal, supposedly 
These guns are becoming an everyday item for many people here
You see them all the time
Because people believe they are non-lethal, yet still scare others, they whip them out for whatever reason, in any conflict, that is the darker side of things.
I've heard of two drivers in the parking of 'Evropeiski' shopping center, in Moscow, who argued over a spot, each jumped out of their car drawing his own 'travmat', blazing, so to speak. Half a dozen indentations on each car, one driver's window broken, and three innocent bystanders injured (and both of the 'gunfighters', one shot in the leg, the other in the shoulder).
We from the South own a lot of those. In Southern oblasts/provinces, and republics, lots of people own real weapons, not rubber toys
When we move to the Central areas, to the big cities, to 'civilization', we are used to having a weapon, and traumatic is what is available, so we buy that and lots of it
Contrary to the myth, we don't own more traumatic guns than the Central people, we just know how to use guns, period, better. That is why when there is a fight between locals in Moscow somewhere and guys from the South, the Southerners always come out on top, and the locals - on a stretcher. And they dislike us for this, of course lol
But, yes, traumat is popular across all spectrums of the population. Some, many people in fact, now custom decorate theirs
But, yes, there have been some stupid cases. Like, driver gets into confrontation with snowplow operator on MKAD highway, in winter, ends up shooting him in the leg with a traumat, the rubber bullet hits an artery, man bleeds to death, 'gunman' goes to prison for 5 years. I guess most disturbing case was in Irkutsk, where there was a mass brawls between boys from two different schools, and one of the boys used a traumatic pistol he stole from his father. Four opposing fighters ended up in hospital. The shooter's family is fined 20,000 rubles, and the boys is sent home where his father at least promised to 'whip his arse so that he cannot sit down for a month'
I myself, when in the capital, carry a plain old Margo (Makarov), steel rubber coated rounds. Reliable, that's all I need. Only for self-defense, I don't wave it around like some idiot 'tough guys'...
As the situation is now, you don't need a permit to own or carry one of these. they are trying to change that now. I think that is a very good idea.
There is a lot of choice, as many brands, sizes, etc, are available
There are some guns, like PM 'Makarych', top right corner, that can shoot both rubber and also tear gas bullets. Next to that, to the left, is the 'Ratnik' revolver, which also fires tear gas or steel-rubber ammo. Bottom row, you have a TT 'Leader', made to look like regular, combat TT-33, except it fires rubber bullets. Next to it is a 'traumatic' version of the Nagant revolver. On top of the Nagant, you have the 'Osa' pistol, four barreled, it firs four kinds of ammunition: rubber-steel (renowned for effectiveness, it is believed that the force of a 'Osa' steel rubber-coated round at close range is comparable to a close-up knockout punch of a professional heavyweight boxer), tear gas, 'shock' rounds (rubber bullet with electrodes, like Taser, but better
), and flash-bang round: blinds, deafens and completely disorients an opponent for about 15 minutes. My wife owns one of these. You have also a Izh-79 tear gas pistol. Top left corner is one of the new automatic 'traumat' guns, for people who may need more than 2, 3 or 4 shots to bring down an attacker. Very effective against multiple opponents too. Like an Uzi, but non-lethal, supposedly These guns are becoming an everyday item for many people here
You see them all the time
We from the South own a lot of those. In Southern oblasts/provinces, and republics, lots of people own real weapons, not rubber toys
When we move to the Central areas, to the big cities, to 'civilization', we are used to having a weapon, and traumatic is what is available, so we buy that and lots of it
Contrary to the myth, we don't own more traumatic guns than the Central people, we just know how to use guns, period, better. That is why when there is a fight between locals in Moscow somewhere and guys from the South, the Southerners always come out on top, and the locals - on a stretcher. And they dislike us for this, of course lol
But, yes, traumat is popular across all spectrums of the population. Some, many people in fact, now custom decorate theirs
But, yes, there have been some stupid cases. Like, driver gets into confrontation with snowplow operator on MKAD highway, in winter, ends up shooting him in the leg with a traumat, the rubber bullet hits an artery, man bleeds to death, 'gunman' goes to prison for 5 years. I guess most disturbing case was in Irkutsk, where there was a mass brawls between boys from two different schools, and one of the boys used a traumatic pistol he stole from his father. Four opposing fighters ended up in hospital. The shooter's family is fined 20,000 rubles, and the boys is sent home where his father at least promised to 'whip his arse so that he cannot sit down for a month'
I myself, when in the capital, carry a plain old Margo (Makarov), steel rubber coated rounds. Reliable, that's all I need. Only for self-defense, I don't wave it around like some idiot 'tough guys'...
As the situation is now, you don't need a permit to own or carry one of these. they are trying to change that now. I think that is a very good idea.
